Dispensations Sub-Committee of the Standards Committee - 18 November 2019 - goldenlaneestate.org2024-03-28T20:04:07Zhttp://goldenlane.ning.com/forum/topics/dispensations-sub-committee-of-the-standards-committee-18?commentId=2323372%3AComment%3A73857&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noIt sounds to me very much as…tag:goldenlane.ning.com,2020-01-01:2323372:Comment:737582020-01-01T11:50:34.184ZKeyworkerhttp://goldenlane.ning.com/profile/Keyworker
It sounds to me very much as though Judith Barnes is railing against the culture of complacency, backscratching and graft within the City and her resilience should be applauded. No matter who tries to marginalise and belittle her with semantics
It sounds to me very much as though Judith Barnes is railing against the culture of complacency, backscratching and graft within the City and her resilience should be applauded. No matter who tries to marginalise and belittle her with semantics I suggest that anyone reading…tag:goldenlane.ning.com,2019-12-30:2323372:Comment:736542019-12-30T09:45:47.574ZMark Bostockhttp://goldenlane.ning.com/profile/Mark711
<p><span>I suggest that anyone reading this response from Judith Barnes reads the full correspondence here: <a href="http://www.goldenlaneestate.org/profiles/blogs/representing-residents-not-a-hypothetical-matter" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Representing residents: not a hypothetical mater</a> </span></p>
<p><span>You will then see how none of her points are valid. If you are a City resident, do you really want your elected representatives to be told that they can’t vote on matters…</span></p>
<p><span>I suggest that anyone reading this response from Judith Barnes reads the full correspondence here: <a href="http://www.goldenlaneestate.org/profiles/blogs/representing-residents-not-a-hypothetical-matter" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Representing residents: not a hypothetical mater</a> </span></p>
<p><span>You will then see how none of her points are valid. If you are a City resident, do you really want your elected representatives to be told that they can’t vote on matters affecting you by a co-opted member of the Standards Committee, who knows nothing about our local area and who thinks that you might in the future elect the “wrong sort of people”?</span></p>
<p><span>An echo of the Standards Chair telling the many residents who signed the petition calling for fundamental reform of the City’s “Standards” regime that they were “confused”....</span></p>
<p><span>This latest incident is yet another reminder how our “standards” committee needs to be responsive to the electorate, not the other way round.</span></p> Hi Jacqueline. I so agree wi…tag:goldenlane.ning.com,2019-12-29:2323372:Comment:738572019-12-29T23:50:31.038ZMaria Elizabeth Priorhttp://goldenlane.ning.com/profile/MariaElizabethPrior
<p>Hi Jacqueline. I so agree with you, and know, with years of experience, that the City Corporation does not act in the interests of its residents, and also clearly does not understand the different needs of residents either. I often wonder how would they feel if someone treated a member of their family in the way they often treat us! </p>
<p>Hi Jacqueline. I so agree with you, and know, with years of experience, that the City Corporation does not act in the interests of its residents, and also clearly does not understand the different needs of residents either. I often wonder how would they feel if someone treated a member of their family in the way they often treat us! </p> This account of the meeting o…tag:goldenlane.ning.com,2019-12-28:2323372:Comment:735642019-12-28T22:12:13.049ZJudith Barneshttp://goldenlane.ning.com/profile/JudithBarnes
<p>This account of the meeting on 18 November misses, unfortunately, the important point at issue in the ‘general’ dispensations requested. It is nonsense to say I had not properly read the papers before the meeting. The wording used by Mr Bostock, Mr Mooney and Mrs Pearson in the papers was plain; it meant that, if any of those members had been given a ‘general’ dispensation in the terms requested, that member would have been able to vote in favour of, for example, a planning application which…</p>
<p>This account of the meeting on 18 November misses, unfortunately, the important point at issue in the ‘general’ dispensations requested. It is nonsense to say I had not properly read the papers before the meeting. The wording used by Mr Bostock, Mr Mooney and Mrs Pearson in the papers was plain; it meant that, if any of those members had been given a ‘general’ dispensation in the terms requested, that member would have been able to vote in favour of, for example, a planning application which benefited that member and the member’s spouse, even if it was against the interests of everyone else in the area. How can this be democratic? How can it be in the interests of residents? How can it be in the interests of the City of London as a whole?</p>
<p>This is the point I was making at the meeting on 18 November. The punctuation used in the extract included in the report distorts the meaning of what I said, which I hope would be apparent to anyone listening to the whole recording.</p>
<p>It’s important when considering a dispensation to explore the consequences of granting it. The way to do this is to spell out what the member in question would be able to do if granted the dispensation. It would be absurd to take this as a slur on the member’s character - even if I hadn’t added that the example I gave was purely hypothetical. Trying to stop members of the committee discussing the implications of granting a dispensation by branding it a slur on the character of the person applying for the dispensation is dangerous; it can stifle debate on the best way to implement the protection the law gives the public against possible wrongdoing.</p>
<p>That protection is valuable. There have been cases up and down the country of the ‘wrong sort of people’ being elected, as there is little way of knowing in advance whether someone standing for office is going to misbehave. We should all be able to vote for the candidates whose policies we support, secure in the knowledge that there are good enough systems in place to pick up any misconduct.</p>
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